WSU Fall 2019 Military Info Session with Military and Veterans Affairs Manager

Jake Moscinski: Hello everyone and welcome to Washington State University's webcast for our military and veteran information session regarding the Online MBA program. I hope you guys are all having a great day and thank you for joining us on what's most likely your guys' lunch breaks. We're super excited here to talk a little bit about the MBA program and more specifically, going to be talking about are our benefits towards our veterans here and active duty military members. Starting off, want to talk a little bit about logistics, want to just cover a few items here. In order to minimize background noise, the presentation is in broadcast only mode, so this means you guys can hear us but we can't hear you. If you have any questions, anything you want us to cover in the Q and A section, feel free to just utilize the Q and A resource in the bottom right of your screen. You can type the question in there and we'll be able to address those as we go along.

Jake Moscinski: We'll do our best to answer as many questions at the end of our session, but if we can't get to all of them, we'll be addressing you guys individually. Then, want to lay out that agenda for the webinar here today. We are going to be doing some introductions, introduce everybody who's on the line here who will be covering the webcast. I want to give you guys a program overview as far as what our program is doing in the MBA, talk a little bit about that admissions process, especially for our veterans and we'll talk more about our veteran students, what our various policies are, talk a bit about the support you guys have throughout the program for the whole life cycle, from admissions throughout the full program. Then, we'll give a student perspective. We do have a student on the line who's joined us. He can give you his insight as to what he's seen throughout the program. Finally, we'll wrap it up with that, that live question and answer. Again, utilize that question and answer tab at the bottom right of your screen.

Jake Moscinski: Starting off with introductions. My name's Jake Mosinski. You can see my picture here in the top left. I'm an enrollment advisor here on the MBA and executive MBA program, been here about two years working with our students, a lot of them being military. I'd love to help you guys throughout that recruiting process. We also have Blaine Golden on the line. Blaine, you want to introduce yourself?

Blaine Golden: Yeah, absolutely. Hello everybody, my name is Blaine. I'm a Veterans Coordinator here at Washington State University, so I help students with their GI Bill benefits and any other VA related issues that are going on. I've been in this position about six years. Prior to that, in the Air Force. I flew aboard board the AWACS and prior to that I was a student here at WSU working on my undergrad.

Matthew Beer: Thanks man. I'll take it from there. This is Matt Beer. I'm the Military and Veteran Affairs Manager here at the Carson College of Business. Been here for about a year, working on programs specifically in our MBA program. I was in the Air Force, retired Lieutenant Colonel from the Air Force and I also was an undergraduate student here at Washington State. Kevin, do you want to introduce yourself?

Kevin Beasley: Yes sir. Kevin Beasley, I'm a former Army Captain, right now living in Abilene, Kansas. I'll definitely be talking about the global network and how we use it and just in my second year of my MBA, really enjoying it and looking forward to it.

Matthew Beer: All right, great. Thanks Kevin. I appreciate it. This is Matt again. Before we get started, I just want to touch base real quickly on our legacy here at Washington State. We're a land grant college, so we have a really long history working with not only veterans but also military students and cadets and also at the College of Business it's kind of a special connection. Our namesake, Scott Carson, who is a former CEO of Boeing, actually served in Vietnam for a few years. He was with an air commando squadron, which is kind of the precursor of the Air Force Special Ops and he loaded aircraft like this B26 during the daytime and then flew at nighttime kicking flares out of aircraft. He has an affinity for our veteran population, so that's kind of nice to have a partner with him. He also attended here on the GI Bill after he left Vietnam and then went on to a successful career, so we have a long heritage, like I say, of serving in the military and veterans and so we take it pretty seriously. All right, next.

Jake Moscinski: Awesome. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, I just want to talk a little bit about our MBA program. It is a hundred percent online and can be completed in as few as 22 to 29 months. I have a lot of veterans in the program, both deployed and at home, not just veterans, but also active duty. That hundred percent online and the flexibility we have, definitely going to be conducive for those students. All right, now for the reasons for that range in terms of the length, it's either 22 to 29 months, well, that's going to be due to our foundation courses. These are essentially the prerequisites to the program, so if you're coming from a business educational background, you can have the opportunity to waive these are, that'd be a part of the admissions process. You'd be working with an enrollment advisor like myself to help you potentially waive some of those if you have equivalent coursework.

Jake Moscinski: Our programs also have, our MBA also has four different concentrations, so we have a marketing concentration, a finance concentration, hospitality business management, and then international business. That will be made up of the three different electives that you have throughout the program. If you end up taking three electives in marketing, you would end up graduating with an MBA. Additionally, you would get a graduate level certificate in marketing. That's a really good way for students just to really highlight the skills that they've learned in our MBA program. Potentially use that to leverage into a new career. Oftentimes, our military students are looking to make that transition from military into the civilian role, so that can be a good way to distinguish yourself even further in a more specific way. Now, if none of these concentrations sort of line up with what you're exactly looking to do, we have a general option that a lot of students opt to take.

Jake Moscinski: What that means is you're able to pick and pull electives from any of these concentrations. You know, maybe that's one marketing class, a finance class and an international business class. Really, it's up to you how you want to go throughout the program. Now, our program is considered an asynchronous program and what that means for you guys is really you're doing this on your own time. You have your weekly deadlines that your meeting, it's going to be Sunday at right around 11:59 Pacific time. We give you from Monday to Sunday to be really figuring out when you want to work on the project, when you want to work on your assignments, and how you want to tackle it. With that being said though, don't want to sacrifice the benefit of attending live events, being able to connect with your professors and students. You guys learn together really well and have a lot of perspective to bring into the program.

Jake Moscinski: We do have live sessions that occur each week. It's actually with your professor. They'll be hosting a, basically, a discussion room. You guys jump in through a webinar similar to this actually where you guys can be asking questions, doing group activities, and really just ultimately getting to interact with the other students in the program. Now, if you can't make these though, that is totally fine. They are going to be optional, so they're all recorded, they're all archived, next day they're going to be posted in your learning system that you guys use, and you're able to watch them really on your own time. Then, at the end of the program, we're wrapping up with a capstone project. At the graduate level, there's always going to be some large examination at the end of a program. Some programs you'll see a thesis that you have to write a big research proposal and projects, other programs you might see a big final examination. We've opted to do a more hands-on approach with a capstone project where you're actually developing a business plan.

Jake Moscinski: You're going to start by identifying a new company that you and your group members are going to create. You have this new opportunity, you're going to do a feasibility study to see if this opportunity is worth acting upon, you're going to create a full business plan, and then ultimately, you're going to pitch it to the Carson College of Business Faculty. You'll do a recording of yourself basically acting as if you're pitching this to some investors. It's a really good culmination of the project if you have any entrepreneurial ideas that you want to act on, a really good way to benchmark, and potentially even use that idea as your capstone project, but aside from that, it's just a great way to show all the skills that you've learned along the way, all those different leadership and management, and functional business tools, and put them into one feasible project that you conceive.

Jake Moscinski: Then, we also have an international field study. This is optional, but it's a really good opportunity to be jumping into a different culture. We go to a different place each year for the most part. We've been to Chile, we're going to Finland, actually. We have various business partners and educational partners all around the world, so it's a really good way to leverage that, great networking opportunity, but again, we don't want to take away any flexibility from the program. That will be entirely optional. If you can't make it, no worries. Just an additional opportunity for you guys.

Jake Moscinski: Looking at some of the highlights of the program, some familiar information here. Again, it's that 22 to 29-month program based off of those foundations that might be needed. In the enrollment process, we do have some great GMAT waiver options. A lot of our military students are able to secure these. We're seeing a lot of good work experience that we can leverage and if we can pair that with some good educational experience, could be some opportunity to waive any GMAT or GRE examinations. Again, though the program a hundred percent online, there's no residency, there's no mandatory travel, any travel and networking events, those are going to be optional for you guys and we're also going to create more virtual networking events that Matt Beer will be going into in just a bit. No professional experience required. Obviously, you guys probably have some serving in the military but if you're a little bit younger in your career, you don't have to worry about that being a hard requirement for our program.

Jake Moscinski: We also like to keep our class sizes small. We want you guys to really be able to have enough time to get to know the other students in the program, but also get the help that you need from your professors in your classes, so we keep it at that 25 to 30 student range. That gives us a lot of opportunity to connect with you guys, to work with you throughout those classes, and make sure you're really mastering this content as you're looking to gear up to take new positions. Then, our core structure, this is another really big benefit to students and especially our military students. We do it in one class at a time, so instead of a traditional graduate program where maybe you're taking two or three classes for a full semester, instead we've shrunk our classes into either five-week blocks or seven-week blocks. You only take one at a time, able to really focus on that material, able to create a much easier plan in terms of prioritizing your coursework, not having to juggle multiple classes and multiple assignments.

Jake Moscinski: The only exception to that one class at a time approach is at the end, when you're doing the capstone project, you'll be doing your core class or your elective and then you'll also have a capstone class. That might be, you know, when we're looking at the first half of the capstone, you're going to be identifying those opportunities. Now you have a regular core class and also the capstone identifying opportunities portion. Tuition, this tuition rate is the standard one. This is the 813 per credit hour for a standard student. Since you guys are coming from... who have a military background, you guys are actually going to get a military tuition discount, so instead of the 29,268, you guys will be looking at right around to 25,704, and then on the higher end instead of the 42,000, you guys are looking right around 37,000. You have that $99 per credit hour discount applied and the reason for that range there, if there's any confusion, that is again due to the foundational courses, just like the length. If you don't need any foundation courses, you'll be on the lower side right around that 25,700 mark. If you do need all of the foundation courses, you'll be on the upper end where you're looking at right around $37,000 for the program.

Jake Moscinski: Moving onto the admission side, we've got a pretty streamlined application and we work with you throughout that. The enrollment advisors are really there to assist you through this process. You have your application, which is a completed and signed online application. Pretty quick to fill out your general information. In there, you're going to have your transcripts. We will need official transcripts from all schools attended. You're also going to have a current resume. This will be a maximum of two pages, and then you'll also have one letter of recommendation, ideally coming from somebody who supervised you, maybe a higher rank that's been overseeing you or if you are working, you can always use a manager or supervisor that you guys have. Again, no minimum experience required. As for the GPA, we're looking for candidates with a 3.0 or higher. We do make exceptions to that rule, so if you are a little under that 3.0, I still urge you to get in contact with an enrollment advisor that can walk through that application and see what routes for admittance that we have.

Jake Moscinski: Then for the GMAT, successful candidates are usually scoring right around a 550 on the exam. That's right in the middle, smack dab in the middle of score distributions. That's right around that 50th percentile when you're looking at total scores across the population. Not a super high score, but again, have a lot of GMAT waivers that I encourage you guys to research. That's actually what we're talking about on this next slide is what our GMAT waiver opportunities are. We have five different distinct GMAT waivers. The first one is going to be if you previously earned a graduate or professional degree, if you have a master's degree or a PhD, maybe a Juris Doctorate, you can get the GMAT waived. We also have one, this is probably the most popular one that I'm seeing a lot of specifically the military members using, that's going to be if you have a 3.0 GPA in your undergrad and you pair that with five or more years of progressive work experience. Now progressive work experience, that's really what we're looking for is an increase in responsibility, whether that be through promotions or additional projects. We just want to see that you're growing in your career throughout a minimum of those five years. Your students or your enrollment advisor would work with you to identify how that progressive work experience is looking.

Jake Moscinski: Additionally, though, we have a STEM degree waiver that's going to be if you have a 3.0 in any science, technology, engineering or mathematics field for your undergraduate. That's a pretty popular one as well. We also have the business degree waiver. That's going to be, if you're coming from an AACSB accredited institution, like Washington State University. Really, a lot of the big-name schools are going to have that accreditation, and you also have a 3.0 GPA, you can get the GMAT waived that way as well. Then, the final waiver option that we have that will be for students who are under at that 3.0 GPA, so that's if you have 10 years or more of progressive work experience paired with a 2.79 GPA or higher, we can also request it there. Again, we're looking for that progressive work experience. We want to see that growth in your career. Yeah, moving on to our student veterans. Matt, you want to take this one over?

Matthew Beer: Yeah, sure I will. I just want to kind of give you all an idea of who the other... what the veteran population looks like. Looks like slide got a little goobered up there, but on the left-hand side, that's the numbers for our EMBA cohorts and on the right-hand side, that's for our OMBA. It's about between 10 and 15% of your cohort, your class, is probably going to have some veteran background. The average time in service or to transition I guess is one year. We've got a couple of bright, shiny lieutenants who are taking the program. We also have some folks who've been out of the military for 12-15 years and they just kind of want to come back and sort of backfill that expertise with the MBA. Predominantly male and our program is, I think, we're... Jake, you probably could have a better number for this, but the number of students at large, the veteran... or the female population is greater, all over the world as we'll show you on the next slide, but the vast majority here are on the West Coast. I think that's from their familiarization with our school probably the reason for that. The graduation rate there is pretty remarkably high.

Matthew Beer: The pictures there are just kind of examples of the type of people who take our program. The gentleman on the left is retired F18 Squadron Commander. Now he's managing a firefighting company up in Spokane, Washington, and he's come to get his EMBA, again, to kind of backfill some of the operational experience that he has had. The gentleman on the right is a Captain, currently a Captain in the Army. He's finishing up his eighth year and he's ready to transition out, so he's going through our MBA program as well. That's kind of a bit of an idea. On the next slide, Jake, if you'll advance that for me, this is kind of an idea again who's kind of in the network. This is, again, just military only. This is kind of like heat map of where our students are. There's a couple that are missing, we've got some in Montana and Ohio, I think, but these are the big hot spots. That's where all of our military folks are located.

Matthew Beer: We also have a LinkedIn group, so our Carson veterans, we have a LinkedIn group where folks are active on that and they kind of know who's who in the zoo. Then, just down the right-hand side, I just sort of put a list of kind of the positions. We have folks from virtually every industry I can really think of all over the country and around the globe. There is a big opportunity there to network with folks who are not only in your industry, but if you're looking to do something different in other positions as well.

Matthew Beer: [inaudible 00:19:17] probably already mentioned these, I'll just reiterate them real quick. The potential for a GMAT waiver exists. We do have a tuition reduction for our MBA program. We waive the application fee for all of our veteran applicants and we also have a program here that Blaine helps us with where we don't have any late fees because we know that if you're using the GI bill or tuition assistance for active duty folks, sometimes there can be some hiccups in the system. We just made a blanket decision to make sure we don't hamper anybody with that worry, so that's not something you have to think about when you're kind of doing studies here at Washington State. I think with that, we'll jump right into the benefits. I apologize for the size of the font on this slide, but there's a lot of information. I'll let Blaine speak to this one since he and his group handle most of this.

Blaine Golden: Okay, thanks Matt. Yeah, first of all, I work with the Office of Veterans Affairs so our contact information is right up there. Feel free to reach out to me anytime if you have any questions or if there's anything that doesn't get addressed. I'm happy to speak one on one. For starters, a lot of our MBA students use tuition assistance and there's a pretty straightforward process for getting that set up. The bottom line with tuition assistance is that you need to initiate the process through your base education office wherever that's located. They'll put you through a kind of a process where there'll probably be a presentation and obviously some paperwork that you'll fill out. You'll probably need to collect your degree plan, which our admissions advisors can help you get a copy of that. That's not a big deal and also a cost assessment.

Blaine Golden: Once your application goes into your base education office, it's routed through the DOD, you get approved for tuition assistance and then back on WSU's end, what we need to see is a copy of your tuition assistance authorization form and you'll probably get one of those for each class separately that you take through the MBA program. Potentially you could be sending those to us every five to seven weeks as you progress through the program. You can send those to veterans@wsu.edu and that makes sure that somebody in my office gets it as soon as possible. Then we work with our accounts receivables office to make sure that there is a guarantee for that amount placed on your account and then you don't really have to worry about it anymore. Then, as far as grades go for Air Force and Army folks using tuition assistance, we have an avenue to report your grades directly to the DOD. For Navy and Marine and Coast Guard, you're able to report your grades yourselves, those branches accept that. There's a portal that you're able to do that through. All the branches have their own little portal and you'll get information on that as you work through your base education office on how to use that portal and how to get access and so on.

Blaine Golden: Then moving onto the VA benefits side and in that I'm talking primarily either Montgomery GI bill or the Post 9-11 GI bill. That's a separate process from GA, of course. All of this is on our website, va.wsu.edu under the apply section, so don't feel like you have to take detailed notes here. It's all they're written down. What you want to do is apply for your benefit if you have not used the GI bill before and there's a form that you fill out through the VA to do so. That's an online process and once again, there's a link to the VA's website on our website and I would recommend that you initiate this process at least three to four weeks before you start your program just to ensure that there's no delays.

Blaine Golden: Tuition is not a big deal. As Matt mentioned before, you're not going to get a late fee or anything. We understand that it takes the VA some time to make those payments, but if you're not in the military and you'll be receiving a housing stipend, to avoid any delays in that, you want to be on top of the paperwork as soon as you can. Once you apply for the VA benefit, you'll get a certificate of eligibility. That'll arrive in the mail and my office needs a copy of that. Once again, you can send it to VA dot W or veterans@wsu.edu excuse me. Then the only other piece of paperwork we will need is each term we have what's called an enrollment certification request and that's where you let us know that it's your intention to use the GI bill, first of all, and then what courses you're taking.

Blaine Golden: You'll fill that out. We have online versions of it so and then you'll fill it out yourself and send it to your academic advisor and they usually sign it and send it directly to veterans at WSU again. We'll take that, we'll get everything into the VA system. We let the VA know how many credits you're taking, what the dates of your semester are, and how much you're being charged, and then the VA will react to that and pay your tuition and if you're eligible for a housing stipend, they will pay that, and they will provide a book stipend.

Jake Moscinski: Awesome.

Blaine Golden: Thank you.

Jake Moscinski: Thank you so much.

Blaine Golden: Absolutely.

Jake Moscinski: I appreciate you going over those benefits. Again, though, you can always reach out to Blaine or our Veterans Department individually and they can really walk you through that process. That's pretty much what every military student is going to do as we're applying and getting accepted into the program. Now I want to talk a little bit about student support. That's going to be especially big for our active duty military members and also any student in the program. Starting off, you know right away you have access to enrollment advisors. They really have two jobs. One is to see if the program's a good fit, you're going to talk to them about what you're looking to do, whether that be in your career or maybe transitioning out of the military and see if our MBAs curriculum and flexibility line up with your needs.

Jake Moscinski: Then two, if it does, they're going to help you through that application process. They work with you to really get all of your documents in on time, they'll work with you to connect with the right people such as the Office of Veterans Affairs or Matt Beers, talking about other military issues there, and they will work with you on just making sure those documents are of high quality. If there needs to be updates maybe to the resume, they can give you some feedback there. Additionally, though, once you're in the program, the enrollment advisors will make a handoff to your student support advisor. This is really your go-to person throughout the program for everything that's not specifically class content related, so they're going to help you really register for all of your classes, make sure that you know what classes you're registering for. They take part of the process and gathering any documents you need for tuition assistance or reimbursement and just ultimately going to be your lifeline as you go through the program.

Jake Moscinski: Moving on from there, though, you do have access to tech support. We use a system here called Blackboard, a pretty popular online learning system, so that's going to be 24/7. If you're working at maybe odd hours, maybe you're in a different time zone, you always are going to have access to get any technical issues resolved. You also have access to the Crimson help desk, so this is Washington State specific. They're able to help you with any account information that you're having tech issues with. They're super helpful. I talk with them at least once a week as I'm helping students through some of those early technology issues if any arise and they're very responsive, very quick to action. Then, another part of support is keeping those class sizes small that gives you more access to your teachers, so that academic support is going to be big.

Jake Moscinski: We break our classes up so you have your head professor, your lead professor who goes over the main content. We also break up those classes into sections. Now you're going to have a section instructor as well. That way you have more faculty members at your disposal and more information to gain from these multiple faculty members. Then, moving on to extra curriculars, this is going to be another Matt Beer slide. You want to go ahead?

Matthew Beer: Yeah, sure, I'll finish up with this one. There's some other things that we're trying to offer it to our veteran and military students as well. I'll just kind of run down the list here. First one, we started our Coug Conversations and that's really an attempt to integrate not only our military veteran students, but our other students as well. We basically pick a book, so this month of June, we're reading Good to Great and going to meet up with about 15 to 30 students and we'll kind of discuss that and talk about that book. That's kind of a cool thing we do. Another thing, we've been holding some true workshops over the course of the last year, so we've had an alumni panel for one, we had Monica McNeal from Four Block come and talk about kind of networking and LinkedIn. We've got a career coach come out and talk about Strength Finder and offer some career coaching. We kind of have a whole host of things that we offer throughout the course of your academic career here, so that's something that you can look forward to.

Matthew Beer: We also have an agreement with MBA Veterans, that's a... It's kind of a recruiting networking organization. It's primarily targeted at junior military officers and NCO's. That's something that we've been able to offer some registration fee for, for the students who are interested in attending. That's another opportunity. Then the last one is kind of a... It's kind of fun and it's, it's really one of the ones I enjoy the most is Operation Ol' Crimson. We'll send out a flag to folks who are out there doing cool things and hopefully get some good hero shots because people around here really do appreciate what our active duty folks and reserve and guard folks are doing all around the world. It's really cool for them to kind of see that applied.

Matthew Beer: Those are some of the programs we have in the works at present. I think that might be the last slide, Jake, if you want to get the next one. Oh, no. How could I forget Kevin? Yeah, most important. I really wanted the opportunity for you all to hear from one of our current students who is actually going through the, you know, the joy and pain of getting his MBA. Kevin, I won't talk in the [inaudible 00:29:33] just let you take it away and you can kind of share where you're at and what you've done and what your experience has been so far.

Kevin Beasley: Well, hey guys. Like I said, my name's Kevin Beasley. I'm a former Army Captain, commanded a regular troop and then an [inaudible 00:29:49] troop. When they were talking about the GMAT waiver, that's how I used mine. I basically just pointed to that experience as a platoon leader, as a mastery, as a commander in [inaudible 00:30:01]. Basically, that whole process, the GMAT waiver, GRE waiver was really, really easy. Like they were talking about earlier as well, you have that enrollment advisor that's basically walking you through step by step. I remember me and my enrollment advisor, we basically sent back and forth all my paperwork, my resume, everything that really I needed to kind of put in for that waiver and she was great in going through, seeing what I needed, adding what I... adding kind of some of those wordings that she knew they were looking for, kind of going through and really gleaning that information that she needed.

Kevin Beasley: I was able to get that waiver. Also, talking about the foundation courses, I had to go through the foundation courses. I don't have an undergrad in a business degree. My Undergrad is in communication, so when I went through and actually went through the enrollment process, I was walked step by step through that as well. What that means for me, how I'll be involved in those foundation courses, how that'll affect my timeline, and then also like what kind of criteria is required for those foundation courses as well. Overall, looking at the admissions and benefits process, I was telling Blaine about this when we were first getting on here is, it's honestly, it's a great program. I have a lot of friends that are doing the same thing I'm doing, kind of going back for their masters, a lot of us going back for our MBA, all of us kind of mid-grade level, you know that senior company grade, junior deal grade level officers and it's amazing to me how easy my experience was as compared to a lot of others. These guys are out there and they're struggling with all the stuff they're supposed to submit to the VA and making sure the VA gets it and confirms it. What that goes back and who gets what paperwork, and really at WSU and to this program, Blaine is your point of contact and walks you through that step by step. You submit your paperwork to Blaine, Blaine submits that to the VA and you basically get a confirmation email back that says you're good to go. Once you get that confirmation email back, the VA sends you basically a packet every time that you go through and we verify your classes.

Kevin Beasley: It's so nice that I can just wait, get that, know that the housing stipend, the VAH is going to be coming through, the book stipend's coming through, and as Matt and Blaine we're talking about is when you really look at it, you see that we don't get charged the late fee. Even if the VA in a week or two weeks or three weeks behind, we don't get charged the late fee because we haven't met that tuition date requirement. Like I said, it's just, it's so nice. I can sit back, I can watch some of those other guys as they kind of struggle through it and I feel the empathy and sympathy for them, but WSU just makes it so nice and so easy with all that, the process of it.

Kevin Beasley: As far as like the community and the networking, like Matt was talking about, I mean, it's phenomenal. We have went through a couple of programs now where we've gotten to actually sit down and speak with some senior level officers that are now out in the business world, kind with that CEO, COO, CFO type of level, kind of get their feedback, some post-graduates, get their feedback, and it's really a great opportunity to kind of sit down and talk through some of the issues and some of the things that you're having and have these guys kind of come back and say, "Yeah, you know, I did that same thing. I felt those same things and now here's kind of the steps that I took." Then, just the networking piece of it, the amount of people that we're able to know and link with.

Kevin Beasley: Matt kind of pointed to the LinkedIn program that we went through with Monica and I will say, honestly, it blew me away. I was not fully aware of the power that LinkedIn has and kind of those tips and tricks that you need to do to really get seen and noticed on LinkedIn, but Monica definitely had kind of that laser focus of being able to let us know where we need to put the right words, what words we need to use, especially when we were looking for, you know, if we're looking for logistics or we're looking for management or we're looking from finance, how to kind of tailor our profile so that way recruiters or companies who are looking for those positions or looking for those key words, we would pop up in there. It was quite amazing, you know, and that kind of... The whole extracurricular part of it, you know, reading Great to Good or Good to Great, right now, just kind of sitting down and being able to talk back and forth with other veterans, see where they're at in the program.

Kevin Beasley: I honestly, I'm so glad that I made the decision to do it. I was kind of hesitant at first to really go into an MBA program. I was looking for something else, but my job and my career kind of took me towards the MBA avenue and I'm very glad that I did. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else and I would say that, you know, for me and all of my other partners that are doing the MBA programs in other places, I would say that honestly I have it the easiest and I think that's a great attribute for WSU and why people should be involved in the program. With that, Matt or anybody, just let me know if you have any questions and answers, I'm here for that.

Jake Moscinski: Awesome. Kevin, I really appreciate that. Always good to get that student perspective because I think it holds a lot of weight in the eyes of incoming students to really hear what it actually looks like, so I appreciate that. Yeah, I just want to thank everybody for attending. Blaine, really appreciate you hopping on, Matt, appreciate that as well, and Kevin, special thanks to you for hopping in here and giving the student perspective. Yeah, it looks like most of the questions were answered throughout the program, throughout the webinar. If there's anything remaining, we can reach out to you guys individually.

Jake Moscinski: We do have an upcoming fall start here. That's going to be August 19th, so if you're looking to get started, plenty of time to do the application or the deadline's is going to be July 22nd. You would connect with your admissions advisor, like myself, in order to get that process rolling and work on obtaining any documents for the application. Again, thank you so much everybody. I hope you guys learned a lot about our program and what we have to offer in the MBA and for our veterans.

Matthew Beer: Thanks, Jake. Yeah, this is Matt. I'll just wrap up. If anybody has any questions they want to type into the Q and A box, we're happy to stick around and answer those and if not, I just really, really appreciate your time and I wish you all the best of luck.

Jake Moscinski: Perfect. Thanks Matt. I'm going to go ahead and wrap it up here. No questions that we have yet to answer, so yes, again, appreciate you everybody.